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administrator
06-20-2008, 05:21 PM
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PULASKI -- Patricia Weeks and Heather O'Dell have never lifted a nine-iron, but over the past six weeks golf carts have become a near-obsession with them.

"Look at that! I am in love," O'Dell said, pointing to a bright yellow golf cart model featured in a catalog she'd been paging through while sitting in the office of her natural foods store. Just minutes earlier, O'Dell had finished polishing up a golf cart proposal Weeks is presenting to the town council this evening.

The proposal will ask the Pulaski council to consider adopting regulations that would allow golf carts on town roads. Weeks and O'Dell know asking for such a change is somewhat unusual, but their distaste for high gas prices and a desire to transport their elderly parents more easily have launched the two women into activist roles they said they're very serious about.

Weeks and O'Dell both characterized their mission as improving the environment, helping the town's 9,000 residents lower their fuel costs and putting the town on the map for environmental efforts.

"When people tell me it's stupid or quirky, I get offensive," Weeks said. "What are they trying to do to help somebody -- besides sitting on their rear end?"

"She's a Leo. She's going to push anything," said O'Dell.

But with a smartly crafted proposal that takes everything from safety precautions to weather conditions into account, it's hard to imagine the council won't take the idea seriously.

In fact, Weeks' proposal came at the urging of Town Manager John Hawley. She approached him six weeks ago after wondering whether the golf carts she'd seen people driving at a campground a few years ago would work in Pulaski.

"We're going to look at anything that's going to help the citizens," Hawley said. "If it doesn't cause a problem with regular traffic flow, it's something we'd like to look at for sure."

Weeks and O'Dell have partnered with Bud White, the owner of Affordable Tractors in Dublin, who sells used golf carts starting at $1,895 and new carts starting at $5,000. Electric carts use less power than an electric oven to charge, White said. He added that most owners of gas-powered carts he knows talk about how fuel-efficient they are.

"It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out what the return on the investment would be when you have $5 a gallon" gasoline, said Pulaski Mayor Charles Wade. But given safety and legal concerns, he said the council will "have to move cautiously" in making a decision.

Under Virginia law, golf carts are allowed on town roads with a 25 mph speed limit, provided the town also has its own police department. Those conditions make Pulaski qualified for carts, but shopping areas bounded by roads with higher speed limits would be unreachable.

"It's going to limit areas you can use it because you can't even cross a road if you have a higher speed limit," said Pulaski Police Chief Gary Roche. "That's what I'm going to present and then people can see whether they want to pursue it. It's doable, but there are limitations."

There are ways around the limitations, however. The town of Colonial Beach has plenty of experience getting golf carts safely on town roads, and was the first to successfully lobby the state legislature to adopt statewide golf cart regulations five years ago, said Pete Bone, the town's mayor.

This year, the town succeeded in getting legislation passed that will allow residents to cross
a 35-mph road to reach a shopping center.

Aside from golf carts' legality in Virginia, golf cart safety is becoming more of a concern to experts. A University of Alabama at Birmingham study released last week showed more than 48,000 injuries from 2002 through 2005 related to golf carts, especially among people ages 10 to 19 and over 80.

Gerald McGwin, a professor of epidemiology who co-authored the study, said while it "always seems like such a good idea" for towns to allow carts, "if you take the golf cart itself and put it on a home environment or on a city street, it's now part of the traffic and it wasn't designed for that."

"[Twenty-five mph] is a fairly significant amount of force. A golf cart coming into contact with a Suburban or a passenger car weighing 3,500 pounds -- who's going to lose in that situation? The golf cart is," McGwin said. "All it takes is one bad incident and everyone says 'Where was the city, where was the state, where was the federal government?' "

O'Dell and Weeks acknowledge the safety and road concerns, giving a range of ideas for regulations in their proposal.

"I'm trying to help the people that want it," Weeks said. "You don't have to do it. I feel like there's a need out there. You can leave your car at home when you drive to the grocery store."

Story courtesy of Roanoke.com (http://roanoke.com/)

boandlukeduke
06-20-2008, 09:45 PM
My only concern would be the maniac drivers who speed through LMOA. I would hate to die in a tragic golf cart accident.

But, I'm for it. I would like to be able to putz around in an electric golf cart.

Cartermomto5
06-23-2008, 09:39 AM
Would cars/trucks be allowed on the golf course or cart paths? I think not - for the same reason golf carts shouldn't be on the roadways - it's a DANGER (to them and us).

administrator
06-23-2008, 11:21 AM
I don't agree with you on this. I think the localities of Colonial Beach, King George, Claremont, James City, Fairview Beach, Gloucester, etc. would also disagree.

If it is done right, I don't think there is that much risk involved. No different than the pedestrians or cyclists.

We do have to take into consideration the Crofton, Riverside and other ungated areas. To get to the main lake would involve crossing roads that have 45-55 mph speed limits. This is dangerous.

With increased enforcement of speed within the lake roads, this is a doable proposition.

radardog
06-23-2008, 12:28 PM
I think the lake has way too many blind curves and hills. How many times have all of us topped a crest or rounded a turn to find a walker, jogger, kid on a bike etc. while meeting an oncoming vehicle. Imagine topping a hill at 25 mph and finding a golf cart in the middle of your lane doing 10 mph and the vehicle coming toward you is a loaded dump truck also doing 25 to 30 mph. someone is going to DIE! I'll bet those communities that allow golf carts are flatter with much more visibility. we have too many older folks that probably shouldnt be driving at all and an over abundance of new drivers with little experience to have any more obsticles to dodge. It's a nice thought but way too dangerous. I just spent a weekend in WVa riding 4-wheel ATV's in the mountains. The towns around these trails allow ATV's to be operated on the roadways, however these ATV's will easily do more than the speed limit so they dont obstruct traffic. The town was perfectly safe, there were probably more ATV's in the town than cars. Golf Carts are too slow for street operation. I say lets approve being ATV friendly (with helmets being required) I voted "NO" for the golf carts but would vote a big "YES" to ATV's

Cartermomto5
06-23-2008, 12:53 PM
We can agree to disagree.

I DO agree that we have WAY too much speeding on the Lake roads and with proper enforcement that might lessen the danger. However, bicyclists and pedestrians take up far less "footprint" on the roadways and can actually move out of the majority of the roadway for vehicles to pass safely. My issue is that golf carts would not be able to do this. Can you imagine the many irritated drivers caught behind a slower than slow golf cart who can not/will not pull over to allow other vehicles to pass (still hopefully within the 25MPH speed limit)? Can you further imagine the many times vehicles will cross the center lanes to pass a golf cart putting vehicles in both directions at danger? With our many twists and turns on Lake roads this is extremely dangerous. I surmise that the call volume would go up drastically for LMVRS once golf carts would be allowed on the roadways.

Sidebar: The V in LMVRS is for volunteer. At least at this point it is.

Cartermomto5
06-23-2008, 02:19 PM
An afterthought...

Mopeds are allowed by law on Rt. 53 (and we all know how fun that can be to be behind and nowhere to pass!).

administrator
06-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Here are the laws pertaining to Golf Carts:

§ 46.2-916.1 (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-916.1). Golf cart and utility vehicle operations on public highways not otherwise designated for such operation.
No person shall operate a golf cart or utility vehicle on or over any public highway in the Commonwealth except as provided in this article.
(2004, c. 746.)



§ 46.2-916.2 (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-916.2). Designation of public highways for golf cart and utility vehicle operations.
A. No portion of the public highways may be designated for use by golf carts and utility vehicles unless the governing body of the county, city, or town in which that portion of the highway is located has reviewed and approved such highway usage.
B. The governing body of any county, city or town may by ordinance authorize the operation of golf carts and utility vehicles on designated public highways within its boundaries after (i) considering the speed, volume, and character of motor vehicle traffic using such highways, and (ii) determining that golf cart and utility vehicle operation on particular highways is compatible with state and local transportation plans and consistent with the Commonwealth's Statewide Pedestrian Policy provided for in § 33.1-23.03:001 (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+33.1-23.03C001).
C. Notwithstanding the other provisions of this section, no town that has not established its own police department, as defined in § 9.1-165 (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+9.1-165), may authorize the operation of golf carts or utility vehicles. The provision of this subsection shall not apply to the town of Saxis.
D. No public highway shall be designated for use by golf carts and utility vehicles if such golf cart and utility vehicle operations will impede the safe and efficient flow of motor vehicle traffic.
E. The county, city or town that has authorized the operation of golf carts or utility vehicles shall be responsible for the installation and continuing maintenance of any signs pertaining to the operation of golf carts or utility vehicles. Such county, city or town may include in its ordinance for designating highways the ability to recover its costs of the signs and maintenance pertaining thereto from organizations, individuals or entities requesting the designations. The cost of installation and continuing maintenance of any signs pertaining to the operation of golf carts or utility vehicles shall not be paid by the Virginia Department of Transportation.
(2004, c. 746; 2006, c. 728.)

§ 46.2-916.3 (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-916.3). Limitations on golf cart and utility vehicle operations on designated public highways.
A. Golf cart and utility vehicle operations on designated public highways shall be in accordance with the following limitations:
1. A golf cart or utility vehicle may be operated only on designated public highways where the posted speed limit is 25 miles per hour or less.A golf cart or utility vehicle may cross a highway in the Town of Colonial Beach at an intersection controlled by a traffic light if the highway has a posted speed limit of no more than 35 miles per hour; however, at other locations, no golf cart or utility vehicle shall cross any highway at an intersection where the highway being crossed has a posted speed limit of more than 25 miles per hour;
2. No person shall operate any golf cart or utility vehicle on any public highway unless he has in his possession a valid driver's license;
3. Every golf cart or utility vehicle, whenever operated on a public highway, shall display a slow-moving vehicle emblem in conformity with § 46.2-1081 (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-1081); and
4. Golf carts and utility vehicles shall be operated upon the public highways only between sunrise and sunset, unless equipped with such lights as are required in Article 3 (§ 46.2-1010 (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-1010) et seq.) of Chapter 10 of this title, for different classes of vehicles.
B. The limitations of subdivision A 1 shall not apply to golf carts and utility vehicles being operated as follows:
1. To cross a highway from one portion of a golf course to another portion thereof or to another adjacent golf course; or to travel between a person's home and golf course if (i) the trip would not be longer than one-half mile in either direction, and (ii) the speed limit on the road is no more than 35 miles per hour;
2. To the extent necessary for local government employees, operating only upon highways located within the locality, to fulfill a governmental purpose, provided the golf cart or utility vehicle is being operated on highways with speed limits of 35 miles per hour or less; and
3. As necessary by employees of public or private two-year or four-year institutions of higher education if operating on highways within the property limits of such institutions, provided the golf cart or utility vehicle is being operated on highways with speed limits of 35 miles per hour or less.
C. The governing body of any county, city, or town may by ordinance impose additional restrictions or limitations on operations of golf carts, utility vehicles, or both, on public highways within its boundaries, provided that the restrictions or limitations imposed by any such ordinance are no less stringent than the restrictions and limitations contained in this article. In the event that any provision of any such ordinance conflicts with any provision of this section, the provision of the ordinance shall be controlling.

Chirodoc
06-24-2008, 04:09 PM
These roads are not safe for bicycles or pedestrians, I have come close to golf carts barely stopping at designated stop signs before they cross the street.

ADR
06-26-2008, 04:52 PM
Are we talking about golf carts, as used on the golf course, or road worthy golf carts. I have researched low speed vehicles, which can be golf carts, however which have been modified to be road worthy on roads with speed limits up to 25 mph or 35 mph and have a maximum range of 30 miles, before requiring to be recharged. These vehicles have headlights, turn signals and brake lights.

ADR

administrator
06-26-2008, 05:20 PM
I was referring to normal golf carts originally, but since then have found that you can buy golf carts that are street legal and have to be tagged like a regular car. Those can't be barred from the lake roads.